tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post5890957337578939998..comments2024-01-13T01:45:45.724+00:00Comments on Recovery Archive: Finally! A use for Vodka in Recovery. (But ONLY if being around alcohol DOESN'T bother you!!)An Irish Friend of Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15781376087404079818noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-82041733388658253122008-12-22T22:29:00.000+00:002008-12-22T22:29:00.000+00:00Yeah. I agree Anon"People have said we must not ha...Yeah. I agree Anon<BR/>"People have said we must not have it in our homes"<BR/>"We meet these conditions every day. An alcoholic who cannot meet them, STILL HAS AN ALCOHOLIC MIND; there is something the matter with his spiritual status. His only chance for sobriety would be some place like the Greenland Ice Cap, and even there an Eskimo might turn up with a bottle of scotch and ruin everything!"<BR/>"Assuming we are spiritually fit, we can do all sorts of things alcoholics are not supposed to do."<BR/>(p101, AA Big Book) <BR/><BR/>Well I did put that post in with the proviso that those that were not "spiritually fit' ought not to try this prematurely, but for those recovered folks, I can see no !!! problem here. Plus this is what I have observed first hand amongst those that are WALKING the walk as opposed to just talking the talk. Ie those that "perfect and enlarge his spiritual life through work and self-sacrifice for others" (p14, AA Big Book) <BR/>They are all absolutely !!! FINE. Otherwise I would not have suggested it. But there you go. Just ANOTHER example of "If you want to hide something from an alcoholic, put it in the Big book"<BR/>Bt yeah. Ultimately its live and let live regarding those that use another approach. I am in no position to judge as I am sure I am equally deluded in other respects. I cannot claim to be 'better than'. I try to be helpful by describing what its like for me in a life that feels incredibly fearless regarding alcohol. For me and for Sponsees. But I understand many are fearful. Unfortunately their recovery is none of my business and even if it were, I am utterly powerless over how they decide to work their programme. But yeah anon, I can relate to your frustration in wanting others to be able to utterly unafraid of alcohol. But there you go. It would be nice if everybody in AA had the step 9 promises on page 85 wouldn't it?<BR/>Thanks for stopping by anyway :)<BR/><BR/>"We will see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes! That is the miracle of it. We are not fighting it, neither are we avoiding temptation. We feel as though we had been placed in a position of neutrality—safe and protected. We have not even sworn off. Instead, the problem has been removed. It does not exist for us. We are neither cocky nor are we afraid. That is how we react so long as we keep in fit spiritual condition." <BR/>(p85, AA Big Book) <BR/><BR/>From:<BR/>"People have said we must not go where liquor is served; we must not have it in our homes; we must shun friends who drink; we must avoid moving pictures which show drinking scenes; we must not go into bars; our friends must hide their bottles if we go to their houses; we mustn’t think or be reminded about alcohol at all.<BR/><BR/>We meet these conditions every day. An alcoholic who cannot meet them, still has an alcoholic mind; there is something the matter with his spiritual status. His only chance for sobriety would be some place like the Greenland Ice Cap, and even there an Eskimo might turn up with a bottle of scotch and ruin everything! Ask any woman who has sent her husband to distant places on the theory he would escape the alcohol problem.<BR/><BR/>In our belief any scheme of combating alcoholism which proposes to shield the sick man from temptation is doomed to failure. If the alcoholic tries to shield himself he may succeed for a time, but usually winds up with a bigger explosion than ever. We have tried these methods. These attempts to do the impossible have always failed.<BR/>(p101, AA Big Book)An Irish Friend of Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15781376087404079818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-34695727454155757702008-12-22T21:59:00.000+00:002008-12-22T21:59:00.000+00:00Amazed at the "recovered" folks who express fear a...Amazed at the "recovered" folks who express fear at the thought of being in the presence of alcohol.<BR/><BR/>When Silkworth said that alcoholics could not use alcohol safely in any form at all - I am fairly sure he meant INGESTING.<BR/><BR/>If the presence of alcohol is making someone uncomfortable - there must be a reservation at the first step...If avoidance gives you some sort of power over alcohol - that isn't true powerlessness.<BR/><BR/>I hope I made someone feel uncomfortable with their "recovery" today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-50767680446386486742007-06-12T05:42:00.000+01:002007-06-12T05:42:00.000+01:00Well Vodka was not my drink of choice, for some re...Well Vodka was not my drink of choice, for some reason I reacted horribly to it. Somehow Rum allowed me to have an ill perception that I could control a drunken state. Weird. I will stick to incents for now :) as Syd mentions. However it is very interesting to learn of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-74497744461058396392007-06-08T23:30:00.000+01:002007-06-08T23:30:00.000+01:00Does it help with dog smell?Does it help with dog smell?twodogsblogginghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13880551498311725249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-45118405989260571742007-06-07T03:45:00.000+01:002007-06-07T03:45:00.000+01:00Opps wasnt done posting yet... LOL I think it woul...Opps wasnt done posting yet... LOL I think it would smell good I think its very intersting to bring this up. The whole time I was reading this I was thinkings -OMG buy Vodka???? AAH! or Have Vodka in my house... kinda freaked me out a bit LOL I know you gave your disclaimer and please dont think I am giving you a hard time because I so am not- just would feel weird to me... <BR/><BR/>Hope your evening is going goodShannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07781628960161310563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-54800287778461362012007-06-07T03:40:00.000+01:002007-06-07T03:40:00.000+01:00I just think you cute being all excited for this a...I just think you cute being all excited for this air freshner. I am glad you like itShannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07781628960161310563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-23427216837975949232007-06-06T19:04:00.000+01:002007-06-06T19:04:00.000+01:00Very very dangerous. Incredible you posted it.The ...Very very dangerous. Incredible you posted it.<BR/><BR/>The next time I buy booze, it's to drink it. Not to use it as a bizarre and unnecessary alternative to having the windows open.<BR/><BR/>Other than that, I hope you're having a great day!<BR/>lol<BR/><BR/>KennyRecovery Road Londonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095540109922051600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-44382431959545726022007-06-04T18:28:00.000+01:002007-06-04T18:28:00.000+01:00hmm, I definitely don't think I could have it arou...hmm, I definitely don't think I could have it around. not yet anyway. but it sounds like a great idea!<BR/><BR/>ps rice and beans are a fantastic complete protein. and cheap!Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11813023808982058233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-8664497526600198162007-06-04T16:48:00.000+01:002007-06-04T16:48:00.000+01:00hey! definately gonna try that room spray. i'll mi...hey! definately gonna try that room spray. i'll mix it quickly so i don't get tempted, heee heee heeeShadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999801833389058410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-89829612457978956952007-06-04T13:59:00.000+01:002007-06-04T13:59:00.000+01:00Hey Irish, I'll just stick to incense. I'm not in ...Hey Irish, I'll just stick to incense. I'm not in a blogging mood either but need to catch up on things. It seems that I am out of touch due to travels.Sydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05642843245634635843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-46576926417190955942007-06-03T15:32:00.000+01:002007-06-03T15:32:00.000+01:00Hmmm, don't think I will try it. Great site! I've ...Hmmm, don't think I will try it. Great site! I've not been here before, but I'll be back!One Drunk to Anotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18368833177101319897noreply@blogger.com