tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post6170670093685670054..comments2024-01-13T01:45:45.724+00:00Comments on Recovery Archive: SELF OBSESSED: Constant thought of SELF? Or constant thought of OTHERS?An Irish Friend of Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15781376087404079818noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-77876454522038402112007-03-23T09:09:00.000+00:002007-03-23T09:09:00.000+00:00Hi Syd. Nice point. Yeah you guys at Al anon do a ...Hi Syd. <BR/>Nice point. Yeah you guys at Al anon do a dam fine job of examining the conditions under which you engage with others. Well done for that pioneering work!<BR/><BR/>I actually LOVE the mystery of recovery. I have stopped trying to understand it long ago, All I know, is that some sort of 'magic' happens when I think of others. <BR/>I subscribe to the skilful/ unskillful interpretation of everything really. Meaning it is not the 'action' that is 'bad', but the 'way I do it'. <BR/>I have a !! Amazing connection with my higher power, and it 'comes to life' in a WONDERFUL and life enhancing way when I truly TRY to help others. So really my motive of helping others is to feel the vitality of my higher powers presence more powerfully. Yeh I know that sounds a bit weird, but that's how it works for me. I am addicted to my higher power!<BR/><BR/>Noor. <BR/>Ah Bless! You can be comforted by the fact that I have only ever learned these lessons through exasperating and tough experience!! We ALL make LOTS of stupid mistakes. Its no big deal. It just makes us human for gods sakes!<BR/><BR/>Steve! <BR/>Nice to see you Bro! <BR/>Keep up the GOOD work. Give away what you learned in rehab to those that are newer than yourself, and your higher power will take care of the rest..<BR/><BR/>Hi Shadow:<BR/>"If a mere code of morals or a better philosophy of life were sufficient to overcome alcoholism, many of us would have recovered LONG ago. But we found that such codes and philosophies did NOT save us, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE TRIED. <BR/>We could wish to be moral, we could wish to be philosophically comforted, in fact, we could will these things with ALL our might, BUT THE NEEDED POWER WASN'T THERE. <BR/>Our human resources, as marshaled by the will, WERE NOT SUFFICIENT: they FAILED UTTERLY." p45<BR/><BR/>Self Knowledge has NO impact whatsoever on the symptoms of alcoholism I'm afraid! Self will is pretty useless too!<BR/><BR/>Or <BR/>"the lift is broken, please use the STEPS"<BR/>Nothing short of a spiritual awakening as a direct result of completing the first 9 steps and thereafter staying in fit spiritual condition will do the trick I'm afraid! There are NO shortcuts!!<BR/><BR/>Shadow, there is NO mystery to recovery. Its about going to any lengths and helping as many people get sober and stay sober as is humanly possible, whilst at the same time resolving to be at peace, and maintaining awareness of the things that obstruct peace using the aa tools.<BR/>Simple but not easy! Just do your lousy best! thats all I do!An Irish Friend of Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15781376087404079818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-22223317374284814692007-03-23T06:03:00.000+00:002007-03-23T06:03:00.000+00:00hey! just wanted you to know that when i read your...hey! just wanted you to know that when i read your 'about me' this morning, that 'peace of mind is everything', and that 'recovery is common sense' it somehow jumped at me although i've read it before. and i agree with you there. we 'know' so much, we read about it every day, why oh why is it sometimes so hard to apply it i wonder.Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999801833389058410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-75616159571016011212007-03-23T02:41:00.000+00:002007-03-23T02:41:00.000+00:00Wow, must be in the air today. Today I thanked ev...Wow, must be in the air today. Today I thanked everyone in rehab for being there for me like the others that were here when I got there, and the ones that are left will be there for the newcomer. It doesn't do any good to keep it for yourself, we must give it away. My wife brought my kids there to see me get my mediliion. I finished!!! Thanks I do want what you have.<BR/><BR/>peace<BR/>Hugs and Kisses<BR/>SteveSober Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423694684594332420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-6019856732974282482007-03-22T16:01:00.000+00:002007-03-22T16:01:00.000+00:00I do stray out of my 'designated aa remit'. Thank ...I do <I>stray out of my 'designated aa remit'.</I> Thank you for showing me the way.ArahMan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/10800847777772543779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29205162.post-11431962002190581372007-03-22T15:54:00.000+00:002007-03-22T15:54:00.000+00:00We definitely had similar thoughts for today. I wr...We definitely had similar thoughts for today. I wrote those very words, "in order to keep something, you have to give it away". For recovery in Al-Anon, I have to keep the focus on ourselves, otherwise I become absorbed in others and their drama. It is a fine balance between lending a helping hand and being handcuffed.Sydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05642843245634635843noreply@blogger.com