I've been meaning to write this post for a really long
time and I keep putting it on the pending tray because I really don't know if I'm able to do it justice in the written form. I've had this conversation
countless times verbally but I've never tried to commit it to a written form
and I am not sure whether or not it's possible for me to communicate myself
clearly enough on this tenuous and somewhat indefinable subject area. I will
give it a try.. I suspect I won't be able to explain it all in one post. When
I'm explaining things I like to explain it all in one go but if I try to do
that these blog posts just end up too long. (!)
By the way, I understand people have very different ideas about
depression and medication so I want to assure you in advance that I have no
objection to people making different choices than mine… I’m just saying here what
works for me in my own experience. Take what you like and leave the rest as
they say..
Basically in summary I would say that I expect 95/100
people who are performing a very diligent and capable program who are not
taking antidepressants, to experience some form of what I call "dark
matter" between the years of five and 10. Normally I see these phases show
up in year six or seven, but I tend to have these conversations with people who
are at year five or alternatively years six or seven. I see nothing
"wrong" with these symptoms arising. I see it as part of the process.
I think that this period can be very unsettling for some people who don't know
how this pattern arises. They either blame the past, or they blame AA, or they
blame their program. I don't see it as an issue of blame. But I do think there
are things you can do to make this part of the journey easier.
My solutions are what I would call step 11 and 12 solutions.
But I am very particular about what type of step 11 solutions I advocate for
people with this type of problem. Basically I shop around for what I consider
to be the most sane and mature step 11 community within relatively easy reach,
and those are the people that I suggest sponsees spend time with if they are
going through these uncomfortable patches. I don't advocate antidepressants not
even for people I am sponsoring who are suicidal. So far anyway this approach has
worked.
I could go into an entirely separate post just devoted
to the use of antidepressants and the medical establishment and the way in
which treatment has changed over the last 20 years in respect to the use of
antidepressants, but I'm not even going to try addressing that particular
subject in this post. Basically (for a multitude of reasons but mainly as a
result of first hand experience in recovery) I don't advocate the use of
antidepressants. I have sponsored people who were taking a cocktail of pills or
prescribed medication before they met me in AA. I have always taken and
sponsees through a recovery process whereupon they end up coming off, and not
having to take the antidepressants. Basically they all come off the
antidepressants and they are all fine. So far. The people who used to be
suicidal no longer are suicidal. I've seen this process enough times at first
hand to know that it appears to work. I wouldn't recommend it otherwise. Having
said that, I have no idea how well it would work if you were simply to stop
taking antidepressants and not build new daily routines into your program. Such
as helping a newcomer every day. I've seen it work when people help newcomers
every day and tell the truth every day to at least one person. In other
words I've seen it work when people are selfless and they are going to any
lengths to try and practice the instructions in the book. I think if you are a
very self obsessed person and you rarely, if ever help a newcomer or do service
in AA meetings, then I suspect you will feel very, very uncomfortable if you
stop taking antidepressants. So basically when I'm helping Sponsees get off
antidepressants or other drugs, it is only on condition that they follow
instruction. If they are willing to take instruction and they're willing to go
to any lengths then I am more than happy to work with them in the course of
recovery, which would involve coming off antidepressants. If they weren't
willing to go to any lengths I wouldn't want to help them as I don't think it
will work if they stubbornly refuse to practice things that feel unfamiliar or
uncomfortable. I would insist that they try their hardest to be honest with me
every single day, and I would insist that they try their very best to be
selfless in whichever way they can. It has been very labour-intensive
working with people who come off antidepressants as I need to keep a
close eye on them which can be quite hard work. Thankfully it doesn't last very
long and they seem to come out of the woods fairly quickly if I'm steering them
in the right direction. I haven't yet had the experience of taking somebody off
antidepressants who has subsequently needed to go back on them, or has not been
able to deal with whatever "dark matter" arises. This only applies to
people who are helping newcomers by the way. It doesn't work and I've never
seen it work for people who are largely self obsessed.
Also it's not as simple as just helping others. I tell
people that it is not enough simply to try to be helpful. I tell them that they
have to actually say something pertinent, targeted and strategically useful to
the newcomer. In other words it's not good enough just to offer a encouraging
words, although encouraging words are not useless in themselves. But I use the example ..let's
say a battered wife who is also a newcomer. I would suggest that in addition to
offering encouragement to the battered wife, that you might also offer some
very useful targeted information that specifically addresses the fact that she's
being beaten up by somebody every day. So I might suggest a shelter. Or I might
suggest relying more heavily on her female friends for support in order to
build up enough courage to leave the person who's beating them up every day.
Occasionally people think that being helpful merely involves making generic
encouraging remarks. I don't think this is good enough. I think it's a question
of addressing the most glaring need at any given moment. If they are being
beaten by their husband, I try to say something helpful about how she can not
be beaten. If I am speaking to somebody who has just found out that their
cancer has returned, I will offer useful information that I believe will help
them address the cancer. If they have a bullying co-worker I will make
suggestions about how to deal with having a bullying co-worker. I don't simply
offer encouraging generic remarks. I try to address what I perceive at that moment to be the most
pressing/important need. The pressing need changes every day. I believe that in
addressing the most pressing need I am trying to be of maximum helpfulness. I
don't pick up on satellite issues I try to address the core issue. or the issue
which has the power to do them the most harm if left unattended to on that day.
I suppose what I'm saying is that I am very particular
about what people do when they are coming off antidepressants, and I believe
this has a lot to do with the success I've observed with Sponsees coming off
antidepressants in the past. They come off antidepressants and they stay off
antidepressants. That's been the case for the people I've sponsored is that
they come off them and stay off them and they are okay even when quite
"dark material" shows up.
Right sorry for that long winded intro, now.. I can get onto the subject of this
"dark material" that shows up between years five and 10.
It's very hard to explain but I see the process of
recovery as a predictable energetic unfolding of sorts. Although on a very
physical level there is an immediate absence of drinking. On other levels there
is an emotional and mental and energetic unfolding taking place. I watch people
'defrost' so to speak. The first five years of recovery are what I call
"automaton". I think of the first five years of sobriety as about gaining core
competency. It's very necessary, but it's a bit partial on an emotional and
mental level. I've heard some people say that it takes five years to
"clear the head". I prefer the term "automaton". I feel
that the first five years is a bit disconnected. A bit frozen. A bit
dissociated. Glib.
Sometimes there is the 'appearance' of a lot of emotion in the first 5 years, but I find this range of emotion more about drama, thrashing about, blame or 'mushyness'. Sort of 2 dimensional. 2 dimensional compared to the depth and range of emotions that become evident from year 6-10 anyway. It's all relative.
Sometimes there is the 'appearance' of a lot of emotion in the first 5 years, but I find this range of emotion more about drama, thrashing about, blame or 'mushyness'. Sort of 2 dimensional. 2 dimensional compared to the depth and range of emotions that become evident from year 6-10 anyway. It's all relative.
Anyway, sometime between years 5 and 10 (usually about year 6-7) a sort of
defrosting takes place. Things inside that used to be blocked and stuck start
to unwind. They uncoil. I see it as an energetic process taking place inside.
It's not necessary to understand it as an energetic process in my opinion. All
that is necessary is to understand that there is a softening going on inside.
What is hard and stuck inside is becoming loosened. I describe it sometimes I
say it is like that without realising it, all those years you have been emotionally
constipated. And now everything is moving around inside and wants to come out to the surface. Which
is its natural place. This is not something to be resisted. It is nature taking
its course having been subjected to this spiritual life for a period of five
years. So I don't see it as a problem although I do think that for most people
it can feel very unsettling. The balmy spiritual environment has the effect of
softening contracted places inside the body. This has the effect of loosening
debris that has accumulated in various energy centres. Thoughts and feelings
that have been lodged in various places, start to make their way to the
surface. They can take the form of what feels like a more "heavy"
vibe. Sometimes this process starts as early as year 4, but that’s unusual. 6
or 7 is more the norm.
The first thing people notice is that things feel
different but they don't know why. There is a rich texture to this seam of
feeling making itself present on a daily basis. It's as if they have
inadvertently hit upon a seam of rich dark oil which is seeping to the surface
of the ground and discolouring dry pale earth making it dark and swirly. There
is a rising dark swirlyness that becomes apparent inside. This energy becomes
apparent in their field of consciousness. It appears all around and sometimes
coming from inside ..this unsettling swirly feeling. All they know is that
this richness and swirlyness is present, and it wasn't present before. They
start looking for reasons in their immediate environment why this "dark
matter" should be presenting itself. Very often they attribute it to their
childhood. Or perhaps to a difficult set of circumstances that has reared its
ugly head or an emotional battle they are fighting at the time. There is nearly
always a set of circumstances that will justify the presence of this "dark
material". I like the word rich to describe this new seam of emotion
because I think it is infinitely preferable to the emotions experienced in the
first five years. I have no objections to people going through this process.
And I will always tell people that I am much prefer the company of people who
are able to access this type of feeling.
I don't mean people who are overwhelmed by this
feeling or are caught up very unconsciously in this feeling. I mean people who
are readily able to access this range of emotion. I am much less content with
the company of people who do not have access to this range of emotion.
This 'material' could be from this lifetime or a past life, or inter generational stuff from an ancestor that is working it's way out after many generations. Who ? knows. It might be something collective, or from someone else in your family, or close circle. All I know is that it 'shows up'. That's all I know.
All I know is that you start 'cooking' differently at about year 6 to 7. Stuff comes up which feels heavier than before, and a different level of commitment to honesty is asked of you to make this part of the journey manageable. Simply trotting out all the 'positive' stuff you've read in books, or repeating what your therapist told you just doesn't cut it. I call that a bit glib, defensive and unthinking. It's a different sort of a challenge. Something 'more' is being asked of you that is less bullshitty than what you were doing before. We never really outgrow the capacity to bullshit, so there is always room for improvement there. That's what I find anyway.
By the way I would not assume that if you relentlessly talked about your emotions that you were any less prone to bullshit than someone else. Being long winded and almost exclusively preoccupied with your emotional temperature to me would indicate another manifestation of unconsciousness. So please don't think I'm saying the first 5 years are emotionless. I'm not. I'm saying they are different. More 'basic' or something. A more subtle art is required when things start feeling 'heavy' in this particular kind of year 6-7 way..
This 'material' could be from this lifetime or a past life, or inter generational stuff from an ancestor that is working it's way out after many generations. Who ? knows. It might be something collective, or from someone else in your family, or close circle. All I know is that it 'shows up'. That's all I know.
All I know is that you start 'cooking' differently at about year 6 to 7. Stuff comes up which feels heavier than before, and a different level of commitment to honesty is asked of you to make this part of the journey manageable. Simply trotting out all the 'positive' stuff you've read in books, or repeating what your therapist told you just doesn't cut it. I call that a bit glib, defensive and unthinking. It's a different sort of a challenge. Something 'more' is being asked of you that is less bullshitty than what you were doing before. We never really outgrow the capacity to bullshit, so there is always room for improvement there. That's what I find anyway.
By the way I would not assume that if you relentlessly talked about your emotions that you were any less prone to bullshit than someone else. Being long winded and almost exclusively preoccupied with your emotional temperature to me would indicate another manifestation of unconsciousness. So please don't think I'm saying the first 5 years are emotionless. I'm not. I'm saying they are different. More 'basic' or something. A more subtle art is required when things start feeling 'heavy' in this particular kind of year 6-7 way..
I see it like a piano with dark notes and high notes.
In the first five years people sound like they have a very limited range of
notes they can't hit any of the low notes. They have plenty of drama yes. But
they lack the depth and lustre of a rich full-bodied range of emotions. It's
like choosing a very rich dark blend of coffee instead of a very light blend of
coffee. As it happens I also like to drink very high roast rich blend of
coffee. But what I'm saying is this rich darkness arises in the consciousness
of people in the years from 5 to 10. I think it is relatively challenging
containing this new type of emotion, but I absolutely believe that it is
possible and that it is doable. Even for people with very limited skills and
limited intelligence.
This process is something I like to observe. My only
regret with this transition is that a lot of people I meet haven't yet
developed sufficient ability to be "still" and practice a meaningful
acceptance of these swirly states enough to "bear with" this
temporary discomfort.
I've heard people describe a process called "holding
a space" for a transformation to take place. All I know is that when I am
dealing with Sponsees I feel as though I am "holding a space" for
their process to emerge. It's as if I am creating a safe place for their
process to unravel. I provide some kind of energetic ballast for their
destabilising experience. So they sort of have this wobbly experience, but my
presence relays the understanding that "everything is all right" and
this makes them feel safe. The reason I'm explaining this skill of "holding
a space" is it because it is the same skill I would expect a Sponsee to
cultivate in respect to their own swirlyness. I would encourage them to
"hold the space" for this process of discomfort that is arising. I
would also suggest that they do very simple pragmatic things such as keeping
the lines of communication open. Speaking to others. Confiding in trusted
people. Trying to be helpful in a selfless way.
On the other hand I often hear people saying they are
"sitting with it". I'm not always convinced that this is the right
answer. Sometimes you need to just go out and spend time with friends.
Sometimes the reason you feel lousy is because there is an important aspect of
your life hasn't been addressed. Perhaps you need to change into a new career.
Perhaps you need to change the friends you are hanging out with. Perhaps there
is something that is way past its sell by date that needs to be changed. So
it's not as simple as just sitting with these uncomfortable states. Very often
a way of life has outgrown its usefulness. A domineering parent needs to be
dealt with. A chapter needs to be closed. Painful relationship needs to be
walked away from. Someone who is being bullied needs to stand up to the
bullies. A persistent longing to find a solution to emotional problems in
relationships needs to be outgrown. A victim mindset needs to be outgrown. Some
basic pattern needs to be outgrown. If there is a difficult and painful habit
that you haven't outgrown, then of course you're going to feel terrible about
it until something changes. So in these cases I don't see it as depression and
I see it as drawing of one chapter to a close. Walking away from an old way of
life.
So on the one hand I advocate holding a space for
these uncomfortable emotions, but I would not say that I was advocating
"just sitting with it". Because I don't think that's what I suggest.
I would also advocate exercise and a good diet. I would also advocate looking
for areas of your life which are long past their sell by date. I would also
advocate seeking out nourishing friends. I would also advocate attending a
high-class meditation group in order to learn how to "hold a space"
for these uncomfortable internal states.
All I know is that this chapter of "dark
material" rising is much more likely to happen if you are from a
background of some form of abuse in your childhood. Abuse is very common and so
in most cases alcoholics will have had this experience. I don't want to say
this to reinforce the idea of victimhood, it's just an observation. People who
don't have this type of background may very well avoid this all together. But
nearly every single alcoholic I meet encounters this dark swirlyness between
five and 10.
When I sponsor people I always warn them about the
years 6 and 7 in the first few years of recovery. I also encourage them
to attend very grown-up meditation groups as early as possible, so that when
this material "hits" so to speak, that they are strong enough inside
to contain it without getting too disturbed or alarmed by it. In other words
they have developed a sort of inner steadiness from helping newcomers and doing
service in a day from attending grown-up meditation groups. This inner
steadiness means that they are protected during this dark chapter. Sometimes
people I have sponsored get therapists during this chapter but I don't think it
matters you can do it either way. When somebody tells me that they have had a
difficult or abusive childhood, I try to introduce them to a grown-up step
11 practice soon after they finish step 9 because I know they
will encounter this dark material with some force later. I tell them this in advance
that they are likely to encounter this chapter of dark swirlyness, and that
this is why I am recommending step 11 before this period hits. This makes it a
little bit easier when this chapter shows up. It's still very difficult because
going through this dark swirlyness has a very negative effect on the thinking.
But it does make it a little bit easier because I feel as though they have been
forewarned and they know what to expect.
I get annoyed with Sponsees who haven't started
practising step 11 by year 4 or 5 for precisely this reason. I get quite
concerned about the prospect of this material arising at year six and seven
without adequate preparation. Occasionally people don't decide to practice step
11 in earnest and I have seen people in that category drift off and become
reliant on antidepressants when life delivers some uncomfortable chapter.
Even when all these preparations are in place, it's
still a uncomfortable process when they enter into this dark swirlyness
chapter. They can get temporarily quite angry and shirty. I know better than to
take these spells personally. As long as they are helping others and service is
a way of life for them, I feel no fear when they encounter this chapter. I am
sure they will be looked after. Very often it is their service commitment that
is the life raft. The mountaineering rope that keeps them moored to a safe
place.
I suppose I am most comfortable about somebody's
recovery when they reach year 10, because I feel assured by this stage that
they have almost certainly encountered this dark chapter and have moved through
it without drinking. In other words I feel they can navigate this dark stretch
of emotions safely. I am confident that they have the ability to use resources
to cope with this chapter without drinking.
Having said that I have met people who I haven't
sponsored who reach 10 years sober, but who I don't look upon as having
developed this ability. So in other words even if you are 10 years sober I
wouldn't automatically say that you have this ability.
I suppose the way that I sponsor people is very
heavily dependent upon helpfulness towards newcomers, and helpfulness towards
other people generally. I always say that I expect them to sponsor somebody
else when they complete the first nine steps. It's not an option for them
simply to not sponsor people. It's also not an option for them not to talk to
newcomers after meetings. It's not an option for them to lie cheat and steal,
and it's not an option for them to avoid step 11. So I don't think I'm
particularly typical in that regard. But what I'm saying is that within that
context I have seen people very safely navigate through this unsettling chapter
and reach year 10. I see people come out the other side looking very different
and breakthrough into a new and different life. It's not as if they are
dragging themselves along maintaining that they are grateful. It's like an
different way of life is opened up to them. It's like watching a caterpillar
shed its skin and become a butterfly.
I think the most valuable thing Sponsees learn in
preparation for this inner swirlyness is the ability to consciously "hold
a space" for this swirly internal state. It means holding a space without
judgement and without alarm. Being still. Being present. Being unafraid. It is my
belief that it is the process of step 11 combined with continued work with
newcomers and doing service that keeps them safe. People who 'give themselves'
in terms of service are always looked after it seems. That's what I've noticed.
But in addition to that a good step 11 practice enables you to have an internal
steadiness when this swirly dark material shows up.
I wouldn't describe it as particularly comfortable or
pleasant, but it is eminently doable. And you don't need to do it 24 seven, you
can take a break and go to the gym or watch a film or spend time with friends
or develop areas of your life that are very healing and balancing. I think very
often these periods of dark swirlyness often precipitates the letting go of a
chapter of your life that is long past its sell by date.
Anyway I am very sorry for rambling on at length like
that. But as always I have no idea how to explain things briefly. I know that I
haven't fully addressed the issue of the medication and I'm not even
going to try because that's quite complicated. But all I'm saying is that
within the context of sponsorship the way I have taken people through the steps
it seems to work when people come off medication. I haven't seen it not work.
I've seen it not work when people are not helping newcomers and stop telling
the truth. But I haven't seen it fail when people are going to any lengths and
are helping others and are telling the truth.
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I normally avoid the whole subject of medication like
the plague because it is quite contentious to say the least, but I'm just
saying that's my experience. My experience is that I've seen Sponsees come off
medication and stay off medication when they do the things that I do, which is
try to help others, develop a step 11 practice, and confide in others when
something is wrong. A fairly ruthless commitment to telling the truth at all
times. Even when its very uncomfortable and embarrassing.
Well I hope you find some of that useful and I'm
very impressed that any of you find the time to read this. I've had to resort
to software such as ace reader pro in order to get through lengthy posts like
this one. I'm not sure how anyone else does that. But I rely on speed readers.
The weather is very hot over here and there's a great
deal of preoccupation about the prospect of imminent financial collapse,
Olympic explosions and other sorts of other disturbing world affairs which I'm
not going to go into right now. :)
I hope that your’re all enjoying nice summer weather
wherever you are, and thanks for taking the time to read this.
3 comments:
Very interesting and also something that I wonder about for anyone in a 12 step program. As you know, my wife has suffered bouts of depression during her life. She stopped her meds about a year ago. I don't know how well she worked the steps. She only attends one meeting a week and does service by baking. She has not to my knowledge worked with newcomers or sponsored anyone. I know that some depressions are biological. I am for the moment, glad that she is on medication. Thank you for your interesting post and your comment on my blog.
You Provide Some Insight to the Problems People Share, Gives us all something to think about.
Great post! So much I agree with wholeheartedly. But strangely, while I've heard about and seen this phenomenon in other recovering folks, including some sponsees--I've never experienced it as a specific or definable phase in my own 11 years (please update your list of recovery blogs so I'm in the 10+ years group... ) of recovery.
Reading your post just now did remind me of a great book that your might like: The Dark Night of Recovery by Edward Bear. That's a pseudonym -- if you've ever read A. A. Milne's Winnie the Pooh books you might be able to figure out why this author (a recovering alcoholic...) picked Edward Bear.... ;-)
The book is a story about all that you talked about in this blog. In fact, I'm wondering if it was you that wrote it!
Good to read you again. I've been away from my own recovery blog for too long now -- my family has been walking thru the death of my third grandchild (umbilicord accident the night before he was due to be born....). But I was able to be there for everyone, feel my own depth of grief which i never before allowed myself to feel and to develop a deeper appreciation for the ever changing/ending nature of life.
Take care!
Mike L.
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